Afghani minister death
Afghani minister death
humble_muslim
02/15/02 at 22:32:20
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1822000/1822313.stm

Summary :

"A crowd of pilgrims, who had been waiting for two days to set off
               for the traditional Muslim Hajj, beat the minister to death on
               Thursday after rumours that he had cancelled a flight to Saudi
               Arabia. "


This is very, very disturbing and arouses some profund questions.

1. How can people about to perform Haj, which is all about patience, lose their patince so badly so as to kill someone because their flight is delayed ?

2. Does this tell us something about the Afghan psyche, that in their minds violence is ALWAYS an acceptable solution ?

3. Does this explain the turmoil and chaos in Afghansistan over the last ten years ?

Please, let's not bring politics into this one.
Re: Afghani pilgrims beat minister to death
mujaahid
02/15/02 at 16:44:04
RUBBISH!!!! RUBBISH!!! (Sorry Bro, aint having a go at you, just the people who wrote the story, the BBC, as they got thier facts messed up BIG TIME)

MODS MAY I ASK YOU REMOVE THIS THREAD AS THAT BBC NEWS STORY WAS A LIE.

According to facts that have now come out, the Minister was not beaten to death by Pilgrims, but he was Assasinated in a preplanned attack.

This story can be found on dozens of news sites.

Please do not falsy accuse, or too quickly jump to conclusions about our brothers and sisters, especilly those about to perform Hajj.

Let this be a lesson to us, do not believe the Kaafirs about what they say about our people, especially those with the best of intentions i.e. those about to make hajj.

Mods, please remove this thread. Jazaakullah
Re: Afghani pilgrims beat minister to death
Rashid
02/15/02 at 16:44:31
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According to the same article:  "The pilgrims had waited for two days in freezing temperatures to board flights to the holy city of Mecca, and there were reports that two women had frozen to death."

I don't think it was merely a matter of a simple flight delay.  Other reports I read said that the minister had cancelled a flight so that he could go to New Delhi, and that's what finally pushed the hajjis over the edge.

But now Al-Jazeera is reporting that Karzai "declared that the Minister of Transportation was assassinated by top officials in the Afghan government security system."

you're right, let's not even get into politics on this one, especially Afghan politics.

[wlm]

Re: Afghani pilgrims beat minister to death
mujaahid
02/15/02 at 16:51:26
Let this show you the credibility of the BBC. The above article by the bro was from the BBC earleir today. The second aerticle went up around 5pm UK time, heres it is. Just look how they got their facts completely wrong:

www.bbc.co.uk/news

Afghanistan's interim leader Hamid Karzai has blamed senior security officials inside his own government for the murder of Aviation and Tourism Minister Abdul Rahman.
Mr Rahman was killed on Thursday at Kabul airport, and initial reports said a crowd of angry pilgrims had lynched him.

Suspects include:  
Gen Abdullah Jan Tawhidi - in charge of intelligence services' political office
General Kalandar Beg - deputy of Ministry of Defence technical office
Saranwal Alim - Ministry of Justice official  

But Mr Karzai said the killing had been carried out "for personal reasons".

"He was killed by people who planned it," Mr Karzai said.

He said three people had been arrested and another three had escaped to Saudi Arabia among Afghans making their annual pilgrimage to Mecca.

"We are asking the Saudis to arrest them and bring them back... We will try them. We will put them behind bars," Mr Karzai said.


The incident will add to concerns about security in Afghanistan, trying to recover from decades of internecine conflict, and could also stoke divisions within the government's fractious coalition of former enemies.


'Personal vendetta'

Mr Rahman's murder was first blamed on a crowd of pilgrims, whose flights to Saudi Arabia had been delayed for two days.


Mr Karzai said the conspirators would be caught



But Information Minister Raheen Makhdoom said on Friday: "This tragic incident was the result of a personal vendetta and private hostilities of a group of people. It has no political roots".

The wanted men were reported to include General Abdullah Jan Tawhidi, in charge of Afghanistan's intelligence service department and General Kalandar Beg, a deputy in the defence ministry.

Mr Karzai suggested that the killing was linked to a feud dating back to the struggle against the Taleban.

All five named men were part of a faction of the Northern Alliance with which Mr Rahman had broken.

"All this... goes back to the days of the resistance," Mr Karzai said, without giving details.


Extra troops were sent to Kabul airport after the killing


The BBC's Kate Clark says that the three most senior suspects all come from the Panchea valley and from the armed faction Jamiat-e-Islami, part of the victorious Northern Alliance which entered Kabul after the Taleban fled.

Abdul Rahman used to belong to this faction before he became a supporter of the former king of Afghanistan.

All the members of the interim cabinet, including ministers who come from Jamiat, were present while Mr Karzai made his announcement, our correspondent says.

Security mandate

Mr Karzai's comments came as UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said he thought a six-month UN Security Council mandate for international peacekeeping troops in Afghanistan would be extended.


Rahman had hoped to make Afghanistan a tourist destination


Mr Straw, in Kabul for talks with Mr Karzai, said: "The United Nations Security Council resolution will almost certainly be extended. It needs to be extended. And we will support that,"

About half the UN peacekeepers in Afghanistan are British, a large portion of whom are based at the military section of the airport, about one kilometre (half a mile) from where the attack on the minister took place.

British officials stressed that the troops do not have authority over the civilian areas of the airport, where Afghan police are charged with keeping order.

Re: Afghani pilgrims beat minister to death
ltcorpest1
02/15/02 at 18:53:30
I can tell you one thing,  if i lose my job soon, I will not apply to be minister of aviation and tourism in Afghanistan. Seems like a toug hjob.  Would like to visit there one day however, it looks beautiful.  
Re: Afghani pilgrims beat minister to death
Kashif
02/15/02 at 19:05:56
assalaamu alaikum

Personally, i don't think there is a need to delete this thread. Its either bad reporting or mistaken facts. The BBC now is carrying the news article about it being more like an assassination then a pilgrim scrap.

Kashif
Wa Salaam
NS
Re: Afghani minister death
Sparrow
02/16/02 at 07:31:15
They are reporting this morning that it is almost surely an assassination.  Seems more like a case of rushing a story before the facts were in than any sort of deliberate disinformation.  Happens all the time in the news these days...hyperbole reigns in the war of getting the most viewers. Then the facts come in and  the talking heads have to backpedal.

even the weathermen do this now. :)
Re: Afghani minister death
humble_muslim
02/16/02 at 10:45:32
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My sincerest apologies.  I will be REALLY careful in the future, Inshallah.
NS


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